Written By Sorrel
March 9, 2018, 2:23 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Calaudrin
I am under the impression that the mother consented to have her children taken away because that was the wish of their father and that she is further being permitted to stay with them as they transition to their new lives. However, she is a common member of the Thrax fealty, and I believe she is sacrificing her own parental rights to give her children a better future (as Pravus adoptees). I feel further that she felt as if she had no choice but to consent because, like all parents, she desires the best for her children.
If you were common, you might give up your parental rights to have your children become noble, after all.
If you were common, you might give up your parental rights to have your children become noble, after all.
Written By Ainsley
March 9, 2018, 2:23 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Sometime back there was a fire in the Upper Boroughs, during that fire myself and a few others (Lord Ian notably) attempted to rescue four children from a burning house. We got the majority of them down safely, but the oldest-- a young teenaged girl by the name of Aniyah --was the last left. This brave girl begged us to make sure the young children got free, and to leave her so that no one else would get hurt. I could not do this. I put her on my back and in desperation jumped.
Aniyah has been with the mercies for sometime for her shattered legs. I check in on her, and I have taken her-- despite her arguing about it --as my ward. She is not a princess, she has not been adopted nor ennobled. (Note: This young girl would have laughed in my face had I offered and argued even harder. Because at fifteen she is wiser than myself and some of the Peerage.)
Aniyah, as my ward; will be well educated, well taken care of, given all of the things she needs, and treated kindly.
I'm given to believe that this is the typical arrangement between a noble and a commoner, when a noble comes to be the guardian of a commoner under the age of majority.
Aniyah has been with the mercies for sometime for her shattered legs. I check in on her, and I have taken her-- despite her arguing about it --as my ward. She is not a princess, she has not been adopted nor ennobled. (Note: This young girl would have laughed in my face had I offered and argued even harder. Because at fifteen she is wiser than myself and some of the Peerage.)
Aniyah, as my ward; will be well educated, well taken care of, given all of the things she needs, and treated kindly.
I'm given to believe that this is the typical arrangement between a noble and a commoner, when a noble comes to be the guardian of a commoner under the age of majority.
Written By Driskell
March 9, 2018, 2:21 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Through adversity comes change. Through challenge, we evolve.
Written By Victus
March 9, 2018, 2:19 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
So I see we've got another rumble in the Whites. Here's my only tidbit.
Abbas Crownsworn's children were not acknowledged while he was in Thrax. They were bastards that were not given any official titles of the peerage. With Abbas Crownsworn now no longer being welcome in our family, I had no intention of acknowledging they were offspring of Thrax at any point.
That's it. I don't have any opinions about who House Pravus adopts, they are offspring of a man I no longer call kin. Arguments about common-born being ennobled and such and such is nowhere near my knowledge.
Abbas Crownsworn's children were not acknowledged while he was in Thrax. They were bastards that were not given any official titles of the peerage. With Abbas Crownsworn now no longer being welcome in our family, I had no intention of acknowledging they were offspring of Thrax at any point.
That's it. I don't have any opinions about who House Pravus adopts, they are offspring of a man I no longer call kin. Arguments about common-born being ennobled and such and such is nowhere near my knowledge.
Written By Thena
March 9, 2018, 2:07 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Gods almighty, how many people are up that excommunicate war criminal’s butt again?
Written By Alarissa
March 9, 2018, 2:05 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Reigna
As you wish.
Written By Reigna
March 9, 2018, 2:05 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Cassima
As a point of fact, he does not. Kael was born, legitimate from a marriage. He was raised unconventionally, but in truth, he was never not a noble, whether he knew it or not. He was not granted his title. He was born to it.
Written By Calaudrin
March 9, 2018, 2:03 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Sorrel
I'm sorry, please correct me if I'm wrong. Does your last journal suggest the children were adopted out without the mother's express consent?
Written By Tikva
March 9, 2018, 2:02 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Calaudrin
A public apology:
I did in fact make off with your banjo. I am very sorry. I shall return this inadvertently stolen property posthaste.
I did in fact make off with your banjo. I am very sorry. I shall return this inadvertently stolen property posthaste.
Written By Reigna
March 9, 2018, 2:01 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Alarissa
No. They do not owe us anything. But we are justified in criticizing their choices when the merits of tthose choices fail to meet our expectations. And you, nor anyone tells me what to write in my journal Princess Consort Alarissa Thrax. I do not take kindly to being told I am not allowed to speak my mind or opinion. Just as you speak yours to put me in my place, I speak mine.
We do not have to agree. We do not have to listen to one another. But no one should be denied the right to express their thoughts. It is my choice. I accept the consequences for doing so.
We do not have to agree. We do not have to listen to one another. But no one should be denied the right to express their thoughts. It is my choice. I accept the consequences for doing so.
Written By Cassima
March 9, 2018, 1:59 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Reigna
In an effort to be as transparent in my own thoughts as possible, I shall respond as clearly as I can, Countess.
I do not know your husband but from a single meeting, and certainly I have never inquired as to his background. I know him only as Count Kael Keaton, and have been impressed with him upon our meeting. To be as intellectually consistent in my own arguments as I can, I have never thought nor cared to question him in that regard.
If he fits the descriptions I wrote in my previous entry, that is his business and absolutely not mine, in much the same way the children's' ennoblement is the business of Pravus and not ours.
I do not know your husband but from a single meeting, and certainly I have never inquired as to his background. I know him only as Count Kael Keaton, and have been impressed with him upon our meeting. To be as intellectually consistent in my own arguments as I can, I have never thought nor cared to question him in that regard.
If he fits the descriptions I wrote in my previous entry, that is his business and absolutely not mine, in much the same way the children's' ennoblement is the business of Pravus and not ours.
Written By Sorrel
March 9, 2018, 1:57 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
I have spoken with the children's mother, as it turns out, because I was concerned that two Thrax wards were taken from their mother for no apparent reason. Said mother serves as a handmaiden to the children's aunt, furthermore. Or served, really. She is bitter with House Thrax, presumably for making the father of her children lie in the bed he made.
Their mother assures me that she will have the opportunity to spend time with her children, but she is truly troubled by their separation from their father. Mistress Zaina and Master Abbas ask for support for their children in this time and in the time ahead. That I can grant them. I am willing to support innocent children. I do not condone the actions of their father nor the fact that the mother's parental rights were essentially removed. These children are not orphans in any sense, however, and I offer them the same sort of support I would show any other child in a similar situation.
According to the children's mother, it is the wish of their father that they live ennobled by the Pravus household. While clearly this is a better social situation for the children than being common Thrax wards with little chance of being ennobled by the Thrax household, this doesn't mean the children were treated poorly or were uneducated while living as Thrax wards. It is merely convenient that Pravus is sympathetic to Abbas Crownsworn, who has been excommunicated and removed from his family for war crimes.
Their mother assures me that she will have the opportunity to spend time with her children, but she is truly troubled by their separation from their father. Mistress Zaina and Master Abbas ask for support for their children in this time and in the time ahead. That I can grant them. I am willing to support innocent children. I do not condone the actions of their father nor the fact that the mother's parental rights were essentially removed. These children are not orphans in any sense, however, and I offer them the same sort of support I would show any other child in a similar situation.
According to the children's mother, it is the wish of their father that they live ennobled by the Pravus household. While clearly this is a better social situation for the children than being common Thrax wards with little chance of being ennobled by the Thrax household, this doesn't mean the children were treated poorly or were uneducated while living as Thrax wards. It is merely convenient that Pravus is sympathetic to Abbas Crownsworn, who has been excommunicated and removed from his family for war crimes.
Written By Reigna
March 9, 2018, 1:52 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Cassima
In the effort not to assume the worst and to ask, lest I misunderstand...
Are you referring to my husband, Princess Cassima of Thrax?
Are you referring to my husband, Princess Cassima of Thrax?
Written By Alarissa
March 9, 2018, 1:50 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Reigna
Simply put Countess, House Pravus owes not House Keaton, nor any other house for that matters save one, an explanation. House Velenosa, their liege. And clearly, their liege is fine with it. Pravus will do what Pravus will do, and Keaton will do what Keaton will do. Perhaps being affronted might be better served in blacks? It is a thought. Merely such. And now i have better things to do with my own time. Any correspondence from those whowish to debate with me are welcome to send messengers or come to tea and change my view on this situation.
Written By Saya
March 9, 2018, 1:47 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Quiet rests as heavy stone,
I am empty and alone.
I am empty and alone.
Written By Reigna
March 9, 2018, 1:46 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Cassima
I am not sure in how many ways I can restate this, but I will certainly try in as many ways as I can.
The children are children. This was not their choice, nor their decision. What was done was done TO them or FOR them if you prefer. Their agency was not applicable. They are blameless. They did not choose nor ask for this. They are not part of the equation of decision. Therefore, I wish them the best. They are children. Innocent as so many have said (Including me!).
I condemn Pravus for making a choice that cheapens the very fabric of nobility. There were other options that make far more sense. These children are two years old and have been Crownsworn this whole time, if what I understand is true. Why ennoble them now? What, I ask, was the point?
That is where my objection lies.
The children are children. This was not their choice, nor their decision. What was done was done TO them or FOR them if you prefer. Their agency was not applicable. They are blameless. They did not choose nor ask for this. They are not part of the equation of decision. Therefore, I wish them the best. They are children. Innocent as so many have said (Including me!).
I condemn Pravus for making a choice that cheapens the very fabric of nobility. There were other options that make far more sense. These children are two years old and have been Crownsworn this whole time, if what I understand is true. Why ennoble them now? What, I ask, was the point?
That is where my objection lies.
Written By Cassima
March 9, 2018, 1:45 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
I suppose in this case I owe everyone an apology.
I am fairly new to Arx, and as such was not privy to the flurry of whites that must have graced the pages every time a man or woman of non-noble blood was elevated into a noble family through marriage.
I only assume that any that would act against House Pravus for their decision in this matter also keeps track of all those others who have soiled the nobility over the years, and acts similarly against them - even those in their own household. I imagine they also make similar demands to know the inner-workings of the internal house decisions in such matters. Rightly so!
To do anything less would be woefully intellectually inconsistent, and as superior creatures, we nobility could never fall so low as to be guilty of that.
To those who manage their beliefs and spite so well, I am deeply sorry to have offended you with my earlier entries.
What? Yes Scholar, of course I'm being facetious.
I am fairly new to Arx, and as such was not privy to the flurry of whites that must have graced the pages every time a man or woman of non-noble blood was elevated into a noble family through marriage.
I only assume that any that would act against House Pravus for their decision in this matter also keeps track of all those others who have soiled the nobility over the years, and acts similarly against them - even those in their own household. I imagine they also make similar demands to know the inner-workings of the internal house decisions in such matters. Rightly so!
To do anything less would be woefully intellectually inconsistent, and as superior creatures, we nobility could never fall so low as to be guilty of that.
To those who manage their beliefs and spite so well, I am deeply sorry to have offended you with my earlier entries.
What? Yes Scholar, of course I'm being facetious.
Written By Fortunato
March 9, 2018, 1:43 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
I like being common, in the main. I will occasionally jest, but I am not interested in joining the Peerage (although I would be a credit, I assure you).
I like change. I like barriers being more porous. But I must note that the children of your serfs are just as innocent as the children you have outside of Limerance's bonds. No one is averse to being born to a little more wealth, a little more power. I understand anyone's compassion is necessarily limited. Anyone's resources. How we determine who is worthy of our help and elevation is also necessarily limited. You may need to decide what those limits are if you would change the current ones.
I like change. I like barriers being more porous. But I must note that the children of your serfs are just as innocent as the children you have outside of Limerance's bonds. No one is averse to being born to a little more wealth, a little more power. I understand anyone's compassion is necessarily limited. Anyone's resources. How we determine who is worthy of our help and elevation is also necessarily limited. You may need to decide what those limits are if you would change the current ones.
Written By Calaudrin
March 9, 2018, 1:42 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
Relationship Note on Tikva
Do you still have that banjo? My life is at stake.
Written By Aureth
March 9, 2018, 1:41 p.m.(5/1/1008 AR)
To weigh in on the pressing issue of today:
I believe Calaudrin can definitely puil off a beard.
I believe Calaudrin can definitely puil off a beard.
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