Written By Victus
Sept. 26, 2018, 3:24 p.m.(9/4/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
While it's semi relevant, I'll also sing about Grandmaster Preston a bit.
Though the Faith and Thrax have a long history of differences, something that is understood well between the Church and the Isles is the incredible importance of tradition and it's veneration.
Grandmaster Preston has always understood that well indeed. I'm happy to say he is definitely my favorite militant of the Faith and apologize in advance to Solace folks.
Though the Faith and Thrax have a long history of differences, something that is understood well between the Church and the Isles is the incredible importance of tradition and it's veneration.
Grandmaster Preston has always understood that well indeed. I'm happy to say he is definitely my favorite militant of the Faith and apologize in advance to Solace folks.
Written By Reigna
Sept. 26, 2018, 1:58 p.m.(9/4/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
The analogy is fine enough. And, again, I must submit that the trick is neither to embrace the inferno, nor freeze. It is about finding the correct balance. Do not ignore the fire lest it burn everything, but do not suffer for lack of warmth.
If you (generic you, not You, Sir Preston) simply try to smother the darker impulses within you, squash it down and never address it, your willpower is going to break. It is simply a matter of time. And when it does it is going to be ugly. And the stress and pressure of trying to deny those feelings is going to make it that much more difficult to hold out. If you face that part of yourself that makes you uncomfortable, examine it, deal with it and find a means to express it in a positive direction, then the stress is manageable, it holds no power over you.
It is a balancing act, as all things should be. The needs of self vs the needs of others, the darker feelings that bring us shame vs our selfless impulses. Extremes on either side are unhealthy. Tehom is a god, who like all the others deserves our worship and respect, but not to the exclusion of all else. Not everyone's balance will be exactly the same, but we all must find the one that works for us.
If you (generic you, not You, Sir Preston) simply try to smother the darker impulses within you, squash it down and never address it, your willpower is going to break. It is simply a matter of time. And when it does it is going to be ugly. And the stress and pressure of trying to deny those feelings is going to make it that much more difficult to hold out. If you face that part of yourself that makes you uncomfortable, examine it, deal with it and find a means to express it in a positive direction, then the stress is manageable, it holds no power over you.
It is a balancing act, as all things should be. The needs of self vs the needs of others, the darker feelings that bring us shame vs our selfless impulses. Extremes on either side are unhealthy. Tehom is a god, who like all the others deserves our worship and respect, but not to the exclusion of all else. Not everyone's balance will be exactly the same, but we all must find the one that works for us.
Written By Vanora
Sept. 26, 2018, 12:53 p.m.(9/4/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
It's a fine enough analogy. Assuming that the fire represents the potential within the self of every human. It is not Him.
From there though, we might also acknowledge how very quickly any contained flame might grow out of hand.
Thus the only real hope of safety is paying extremely close attention, as the Thirteenth teaches us all.
From there though, we might also acknowledge how very quickly any contained flame might grow out of hand.
Thus the only real hope of safety is paying extremely close attention, as the Thirteenth teaches us all.
Written By Shard
Sept. 26, 2018, 3:56 a.m.(9/3/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
One of the things I liked about Skald is that I'd never heard or seen him used for something like this. Or, more bluntly, that he wasn't used as a literal weapon by the Faith.
Written By Mydas
Sept. 20, 2018, 1:23 p.m.(8/20/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
And yet, you would deny an absolute that was... never proposed. As you have suggested, perhaps you should spend some of that time at your disposal to refresh your knowledge of Tehom and His dogma? The first three levels should be enough to put your fears of such absolutes to rest. If they don't, then I'll be at a loss on how to help your case.
As to your following point, do feel free to explain it further. Were you attempting to say that the difference between Lycene Liberalism and Oathlands Orthodox, made starker with the civil war that followed, was small disagreement? Or were you trying to express something entirely different?
As to your following point, do feel free to explain it further. Were you attempting to say that the difference between Lycene Liberalism and Oathlands Orthodox, made starker with the civil war that followed, was small disagreement? Or were you trying to express something entirely different?
Written By Mydas
Sept. 20, 2018, 9:28 a.m.(8/19/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
Look upon every perspective. Look. Words are important, and look does not yet mean speak, or ask. Look, and think. Is there a side to this that bears bringing up, without which we might actually step away from the Gods further than if we were to blindly follow?
If such is the case, what would be best? To say nothing and obey? Or speak up and in so doing, follow the true will of the Gods? You spoke of Marach, Grandmaster of Templars. Allowing nothing but obediance to the then Dominus would make those that murdered him traitors rather than guardians of the Faith against heresy.
You can't have it both ways, Grandmaster.
If such is the case, what would be best? To say nothing and obey? Or speak up and in so doing, follow the true will of the Gods? You spoke of Marach, Grandmaster of Templars. Allowing nothing but obediance to the then Dominus would make those that murdered him traitors rather than guardians of the Faith against heresy.
You can't have it both ways, Grandmaster.
Written By Mydas
Sept. 20, 2018, 8:57 a.m.(8/19/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
It seems you've failed to read my writing properly. Have I written that all questions and doubts should be raised? No. Much as I might enjoy discussion, we would all be served if you saw what is rather than what you wish to see.
Try harder.
Try harder.
Written By Mydas
Sept. 20, 2018, 8:20 a.m.(8/19/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
The idea that the worship of Tehom, and in effect the Mirrormasks, merely bring "divisive doubts", as you seem so terrified of, is a sadly common idea.
Yet, it is much more than mere doubts. It is to look upon a matter with every perspective possible. It is to listen to every side of a story, and discard it not for its unpopularity. It is to listen to the accused while the mob frothing at the mouth howls for blood. It is to see beyond the blindness of self-righteousness and temper it with the notion of exception. It is to think, where others would slash and burn.
And it is to remind that even Godsworn who have spent their entire lives within the embrace of the Faith are not above their own failure of understanding.
And to answer the matter of doubts and the "virtue" of unity, I would remind you of the writings of the then Legate Orazio on the matter, should you require a refresher. You can start at 5/27/1008 AR and go further back from there.
Yet, it is much more than mere doubts. It is to look upon a matter with every perspective possible. It is to listen to every side of a story, and discard it not for its unpopularity. It is to listen to the accused while the mob frothing at the mouth howls for blood. It is to see beyond the blindness of self-righteousness and temper it with the notion of exception. It is to think, where others would slash and burn.
And it is to remind that even Godsworn who have spent their entire lives within the embrace of the Faith are not above their own failure of understanding.
And to answer the matter of doubts and the "virtue" of unity, I would remind you of the writings of the then Legate Orazio on the matter, should you require a refresher. You can start at 5/27/1008 AR and go further back from there.
Written By Thena
Sept. 13, 2018, 8:43 a.m.(8/3/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
It's all right when you call me Little Sister. Not great but all right.
Written By Coraline
Aug. 28, 2018, 2:39 p.m.(6/24/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
Grandmaster Preston
It was an absolute honor to help make this goal possible for the Templars, I know that Thrax is also extremely happy to have been of assistance in this matter. I have only the greatest respect for yourself and for the Templars as a whole and know that the fruits of this venture will be something that serves the whole of the Compact.
Should you ever feel I might be of further assistance, you have only to message and I shall be there, axe ready.
In service,
Princess Coraline Thrax
Knight Grandmaster, Order of East Light
It was an absolute honor to help make this goal possible for the Templars, I know that Thrax is also extremely happy to have been of assistance in this matter. I have only the greatest respect for yourself and for the Templars as a whole and know that the fruits of this venture will be something that serves the whole of the Compact.
Should you ever feel I might be of further assistance, you have only to message and I shall be there, axe ready.
In service,
Princess Coraline Thrax
Knight Grandmaster, Order of East Light
Written By Luca
Aug. 27, 2018, 11:41 a.m.(6/21/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
I'll have you know, my friend Aleksei is:
1. Brave
2. Honorable
3. A Know-It-All
He's everything a proper Sanctum-born person aspires to be!
1. Brave
2. Honorable
3. A Know-It-All
He's everything a proper Sanctum-born person aspires to be!
Written By Audric
Aug. 21, 2018, 10:08 a.m.(6/8/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
You received a will and are confused? Okay. So. Here's mine. The Mercurial Blade is Lys's. The Affluent blades are Enyo's. Coinspinner is Shard's. Buncha cool important weapons, distributed. Not hard.
Written By Thena
Aug. 7, 2018, 2:07 p.m.(5/6/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
In case anyone (but especially Sir Preston) missed the subtle implication in my previous entry regarding flatware, the way to kill someone with a spoon (or part of a spoon) is to sneak up on them in a dark alley. Not in a duel, not in a cavalry charge.
It's called 'shanking' and while I'm told it's very dishonorable, it is also very effective.
It's called 'shanking' and while I'm told it's very dishonorable, it is also very effective.
Written By Kenna
Aug. 7, 2018, 1:08 p.m.(5/6/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
Please try to charge things on horseback with a weaponized spoon, Dame Thena.
(This is how it should have read.)
(This is how it should have read.)
Written By Aleksei
July 25, 2018, 9:28 a.m.(4/6/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
I am most definitely more sassy without requirements to behave anymore.
Written By Thena
July 23, 2018, 1:45 p.m.(4/2/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
Knight Votary Baron Stefano Gilden.
Gild light their paths, all of them.
Gild light their paths, all of them.
Written By Esoka
July 17, 2018, 7:49 p.m.(3/17/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
Now that you mention it, you could use hobbies. I have advice.
Have you tried sketching? That was the hobby Calaudrin picked when he realized he was boring and needed them, and it's worked out well. Or you could take up the banjo. That's usually funny, even if someone is very bad at it.
You could also get a pet. Cats are popular now. And people say they're lucky, though I've always liked dogs better.
Don't worry, Sir Preston, I'm sure if the Templars put our minds to it, we can find you many hobbies.
Have you tried sketching? That was the hobby Calaudrin picked when he realized he was boring and needed them, and it's worked out well. Or you could take up the banjo. That's usually funny, even if someone is very bad at it.
You could also get a pet. Cats are popular now. And people say they're lucky, though I've always liked dogs better.
Don't worry, Sir Preston, I'm sure if the Templars put our minds to it, we can find you many hobbies.
Written By Ailith
July 17, 2018, 7:32 p.m.(3/17/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
Or you have an abundance of hobbies that mainly deal with trebuchets and models.
Written By Shard
July 2, 2018, 6:43 a.m.(2/13/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
Okay, I don't know what the 'Paths' say, but from what I've seen, what I've got to say isn't entirely contradictory. One of them can butt in and yell at me if they feel like. The Faith will do what it likes, but this 'it's like fealty to a lord' argument is getting downright annoying.
You have a fealty to one lord, true, but you owe your respect and deference to many different types of nobility depending on your status, don't you? And owing fealty to a lord doesn't stop you worshiping the Pantheon, and worshiping the Pantheon doesn't stop you respecting the Faith's various archlectors and disciples and legates, and owing fealty to a lord doesn't mean you don't bow before your king. And none of this stops you working your various jobs or providing for your families. These are all worships and honors and responsibilities and they take up a whole bunch of your time and not one of them seems strange or unusual or in the way of any of the others. Godsworn give up some of that to dedicate more time to the gods, it's true, but even they acknowledge a hierarchy because the Faith has more ranks and divisions and orders than I care to recite.
The fundamental misunderstanding is this: we don't think spirits and gods are the same damn thing, they are not approached the same way, they are not worshiped like you worship the Pantheon, there is no 'Faith' for spirits, there are no churches for spirits, and all Paths are, are some very vague agreements on how to deal with broad aspects of shamanism from hundreds of different traditions that sprung up over thousands of years. This is not a comparison of two 'lords', this is more like someone claiming I'm being disloyal to the King because I work for Audric's sellsword company.
Now, worrying about someone's shamanistic leanings bleeding into what they teach about the Faith, and saying 'no discipleship' because of that, fine, whatever, that was the original reason given (that and a bunch of shit about new prodigals potentially undermining the fabric of society, of course). I think it's a shit way to treat your people, but you're going to do what you're going to do and I don't have any personal stake in this. But if this argument is going to keep flaring up can we please stop with this dumb nonsense comparison to fealties? Especially since the Faith would never, ever stand for the Spirit Walkers making that argument to do the same in reverse for leaders among their number.
You have a fealty to one lord, true, but you owe your respect and deference to many different types of nobility depending on your status, don't you? And owing fealty to a lord doesn't stop you worshiping the Pantheon, and worshiping the Pantheon doesn't stop you respecting the Faith's various archlectors and disciples and legates, and owing fealty to a lord doesn't mean you don't bow before your king. And none of this stops you working your various jobs or providing for your families. These are all worships and honors and responsibilities and they take up a whole bunch of your time and not one of them seems strange or unusual or in the way of any of the others. Godsworn give up some of that to dedicate more time to the gods, it's true, but even they acknowledge a hierarchy because the Faith has more ranks and divisions and orders than I care to recite.
The fundamental misunderstanding is this: we don't think spirits and gods are the same damn thing, they are not approached the same way, they are not worshiped like you worship the Pantheon, there is no 'Faith' for spirits, there are no churches for spirits, and all Paths are, are some very vague agreements on how to deal with broad aspects of shamanism from hundreds of different traditions that sprung up over thousands of years. This is not a comparison of two 'lords', this is more like someone claiming I'm being disloyal to the King because I work for Audric's sellsword company.
Now, worrying about someone's shamanistic leanings bleeding into what they teach about the Faith, and saying 'no discipleship' because of that, fine, whatever, that was the original reason given (that and a bunch of shit about new prodigals potentially undermining the fabric of society, of course). I think it's a shit way to treat your people, but you're going to do what you're going to do and I don't have any personal stake in this. But if this argument is going to keep flaring up can we please stop with this dumb nonsense comparison to fealties? Especially since the Faith would never, ever stand for the Spirit Walkers making that argument to do the same in reverse for leaders among their number.
Written By Darren
June 17, 2018, 7:54 p.m.(1/12/1009 AR)
Relationship Note on Preston
Because debate and discourse are the heart of wisdom, I will address your concerns with my choice of words openly. Or with my choice of word, as may be:
'Rightly.'
I see now my use of this word was unclear and incomplete. I was speaking to the plight of those who were serving dutifully in Faith institutions before this ban was established. Who believe devoutly in the Gods of the Pantheon but also respect and honor the old ways. These are not people who are fickle of heart or faint of belief, but servants of the Faith and the Pantheon who have heard and answered the call to serve that higher purpose in a way that many lack the dedication to pursue. These people would not be who they are if they were generally given to abandoning their beliefs and convictions, or failing to follow their hearts in service to the same.
If the Faith rejects their service as a consequence of any secondary beliefs held in addition to fervent and diligent faith in the Gods of the Pantheon, that is an unfortunate but ultimately understandable consequence. It is nonetheless their 'right' per ancient agreements to hold the old traditions sacred alongside the teachings of the Faith, and I submit that abandoning their beliefs and convictions to any extent would represent a lamentable loss of integrity and character.
I hope this will serve to clarify my earlier entry.
'Rightly.'
I see now my use of this word was unclear and incomplete. I was speaking to the plight of those who were serving dutifully in Faith institutions before this ban was established. Who believe devoutly in the Gods of the Pantheon but also respect and honor the old ways. These are not people who are fickle of heart or faint of belief, but servants of the Faith and the Pantheon who have heard and answered the call to serve that higher purpose in a way that many lack the dedication to pursue. These people would not be who they are if they were generally given to abandoning their beliefs and convictions, or failing to follow their hearts in service to the same.
If the Faith rejects their service as a consequence of any secondary beliefs held in addition to fervent and diligent faith in the Gods of the Pantheon, that is an unfortunate but ultimately understandable consequence. It is nonetheless their 'right' per ancient agreements to hold the old traditions sacred alongside the teachings of the Faith, and I submit that abandoning their beliefs and convictions to any extent would represent a lamentable loss of integrity and character.
I hope this will serve to clarify my earlier entry.
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